Today’s recommendation is Making Oprah.

“In a new WBEZ podcast, Oprah Winfrey tells the behind-the-scenes story of her iconic TV talk show, along with producers, staffers, TV executives, and ratings rival Phil Donahue. The three-part series chronicles the show’s scrappy roots in Chicago, its rise to daytime dominance, and the powerful sway Winfrey came to have in American life.”

Even if you’re not obsessed with the woman herself, it’s a fascinating story of how Oprah became OPRAH.

The series is three official episodes and three bonus episodes. Listen to all of them. And then join me in wishing for more.

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